> I don't want to run xdm (I like logging in on an > ascii console at times). The easiest solution might be to run xdm anyway. You can type C-r at the login window to shut down xdm on that display, and then you can log in without X. Send xdm a HUP signal when you want it to start managing that display again. The C-r binding might not be in your translations; it was only added to the default in R6. If necessary, edit xdm's Xresources file to include something like this: xlogin*login.translations: #override\ Ctrl<Key>R: abort-display()\n\ Ctrl<Key>Return: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\ <Key>Return: set-session-argument() finish-field() All of this is covered in more detail in the xdm(1) manual page. < Stephen X Consortium